The title of this post was going to be “BLANK is a four-letter word” but I couldn’t think of a synonym for “trying” that had four letters (except work, and it didn’t have quite the right connotations).
Yesterday, the following message popped up in Guild Chat:
Oh look, another person asking me why I don’t heal in Tree Form
Now I confess I was suspicious. This parsed through my wow-filter as “I’m so awesome I don’t even use Tree Form to heal instances, and I’m going to brag about this in guild chat by highlighting the fact that other people comment on it.” I fought against the urge to ask the question that this guy was so clearly desperate to hear for just long enough that somebody else asked it for me.
Why don’t you heal in tree form
Another guildie asked.
Because I don’t need to
Well yes, that’s true. You don’t need to. But what’s that got to do with it? Did your stance bar spit in your coffee? You gain precisely nothing by not going tree, unless you count the ability to brag about it in /g.
What really narked me was that I was *this close* to giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he’d have an interesting sensible reason like “well actually this is my PvP healing spec, and I skipped Tree Form because it makes you a big honkin’ target in battlegrounds” or even “I’m just sick to fricking death of looking at the tree model” or maybe even “I’m actually a shaman, but I called my character Druidhealz for a joke and now people get really confused when I don’t pop tree”.
Anyway, this smug remark sat there in green text for a bit, until our extremely sensible guild leader won all the awesome points on the internet by pointing out that:
Well, yeah, you’re in what ilvl 245/251 gear, that’s three full tiers above what the content was tuned for. I’ve got twice the spellpower and three times the mana regen I had going into heroics. I don’t see that it’s anything to brag about.
Aside from our guildleader winning the internet, the actual point of this anecdote was to highlight the peculiar contempt WoW at large seems to have for actually, y’know, trying.
Just Ony
Regular readers, by which I mean people who read Tam’s post yesterday, might remember Tam talking about an Ony run which began with:
- The group wiping on trash
- The other healer insisting that there was no need for proper healing assignments because it was “just Ony”
What’s really confusing about this is that it happened in that exact order.
It might, I confess, be the rosy hue of hindsight talking but I swear, like seriously swear, that I did not wipe half so often in heroics back when I was getting Temi Naxx ready than I do now that I’m farming them for Triumph. Back when Krystallus was a force to be reckoned with people pulled slowly, followed strategies, got out of fire and generally played like people who weren’t complete fuckwads. Every single wipe I’ve had in a Heroic dungeon since 3.3 has been a direct result of people being too freaking macho to play properly. Well, that or random DCs.
The more I think about this, the more I wonder if it isn’t a bit like revising for your A-Level mocks.
In case folks don’t already know, I’m a teacher in real life, and something you get an awful lot is students saying “I only got [BLAH] in that test/mock exam/AS paper, but that’s because I didn’t revise.”
What I tend to say to these students is this:
If that’s the situation that’s fair enough, but you have to be careful you don’t let “I didn’t revise” become an excuse for not doing as well as you’re capable of. Remember that revising properly is something you have to practice, just like everything else with exams.
Or something. I’m not Robin Williams or anything.
Anyway the point is that a lot of people don’t revise for things like mock exams. Maybe it’s because they can’t be bothered, but I think a big part of it is the fact that if you work hard to prepare for something and still fail then you’ve got nothing to fall back on. I’m not really basing this on anything, but I suspect that a big part of the reason my students don’t revise for tests, that shamans don’t want to discuss healing assignments for Ony, and that people heal without popping tree form, is that deep down we’re worried that we’ll mess up, and we want to have the cover of saying “well if I was doing this properly it’d be different.”
I’d add that I also do a bit of western martial arts, and there’s a certain type of WMAer who, whenever you beat them, falls back on “well yeah, but in a real fight…”
The sad truth is that there’s more kudos in doing something half-assed than in putting your all into it. If you give something everything you’ve got, then whatever you come out with is all you can offer. If you slack, and most importantly let everybody know you’re slacking (like, say, very pointedly not going tree, or loudly insisting that you don’t need to discuss strategy) then you suddenly inherit a vast kingdom of potential. That exam you got a C on for becomes an A that you would have got if you’d revised. That wipe you had on Marrowgar-10 becomes a one-shot you would have had if you’d been in 25 man and doing it “properly”.
It’s an easy form of victory, and a seductive one, but do we really want our triumphs to be measured by how little effort they cost us?
I completely agree. As a Holy Pally in 245/251s I know 5-mans are for the most part a cake-walk. BUT you'd have to chain me down and put my gloves in mittens before I'll stop beaconing, judging light, and SS'ing the tank, and not forgetting popping cooldowns when things get slightly dicey (i.e. the tank has lost over 5% of their health). Okay, so in the grand scheme of Violet Hold, what does it really matter? Well, what matters is doing it every day, and playing like every second is a slightly dicey moment means that heading into our high-end raids, nothing needs to be thought about. Everything becomes instinctual and the right heals, tools, cooldowns just flow at the right times in the right directions. It may be somewhat OTT, but I can't help but feel I'm all the better a player for it.
There's definitely a lot to be said for keeping yourself sharp. One of the other WMA-isms I tend to think applies to WoW is that what you do in a fight is always your *worst* standard in drills, so you have to keep a good standard consistently.
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That reminds me of my old Karate instructor (rest his soul). He always used to say "Train hard, fight easy!". Good words.
I usually don’t go to tree form in heroics because I’m overgeared for them, and being out of tree form lets me DPS so we can clear faster. Being in tree doesn’t give me any benefit (since I already outgear the place/damage), but being *out* of tree gives me the benefit of having access to all of my damage spells without the hassle of reshifting all the time.
I’ve been asked a couple of times why I’m not in tree (plus a group once TOLD me to go to tree form) – and I say exactly the same thing as your druid – it’s not necessary. It’s not bragging, or gloating, or being smug about gear – it’s just not needed anymore, for that level of gear and that level of dungeon.
I will admit that I laugh when people try to tell me I should be in tree form. If my rejuvs are already topping the tank up and mostly overhealing, then boosting my spellpower by another XYZ doesn’t help at all.. so it’s funny when the group gets their knickers in a knot about it.
So if someone barked (no pun intended) at me to get into tree form, I would likely say the same thing in gchat as your druid did – but not because I think I’m super awesome for being able to drop tree form.. more that it’s amusing when other people think it is mandatory. I’m not showing off – I’m just choosing not to restrict myself to healing-only spells.
(Of course, your druid could have been acting really smug, I don’t know – but this is just my feeling on the ToL in heroics deal)
I think the thing is that there's an important and significant difference between what you describe – healing in caster form so that you can DPS to make the run go faster, and explaining this to people in the group if they ask – and going *out of your way* to tell your guild that you heal in caster form because you're so imba.
I find myself settling into a routine when it gets to daily heroic time.
It's probably a bad one.
First off, I scrounge around for a guild tank.
When I invariably don't find one, I sigh, join the queue and five seconds later up pops my window. I click OK, scream at the screen when I see it's HoS and pray for an OP tank so I can skip some bosses.
I have a little add-on called Gear Rating I like to use, because I find gearscore too complicated. It very basically does an average of all your gear. So someone with an average of 200 is probably just gearing themselves up in heroics. Someone with an average of 260 is way out of everyone's league. One click and it gives me a list of everyones gear rating from top to bottom.
I sit comfortably at 240 at the moment.
I realise I am being judgemental but it allows me to settle into the healing mindset I know I'm going to need. If it's a low geared tank, back straight, concentrated face on, fingers over HoTs. If it's a well geared tank, my mindset shifts slightly, I know I might have time to be a tad lazy and skin the dragons.
But. There are certain things I wouldn't ever do. Not sit in tree form, for example. Not buff a pink paw. Not make sure everyone was all at full health before we start. I have my own personal set of healing guidelines and although it is nice when I have a tank I know (even though he does tend to like to test me and pull full rooms at a time), and an over-geared tank (as it does allow me to have a thought-free run, which can be nice after a long day of actual thinking at work), I still do what I think it is my job to do as a healer.
I think that's what I'm trying to sum up here.
However "easy" a run might be for me, that doesn't mean it doesn't deserve the respect I give to ICC. I may be slouched on my bed, drooling, but that doesn't mean the other four people in the run don't need me to be on my game. I still perform my job as a healer with just as much efficiency and ability.
And when I do have a difficult run, with lower-geared (I refuse to use under-geared here, because they aren't under-geared for heroics, we are simply over-geared) people, I feel MORE proud when it's gone well without wipes or deaths.
And although I may grumble quietly to myself when HoS pops up again and my tank is a fresh 80, afterwards I feel pleased the run went well, I congratulate the tank on his skills and I leave with my frost badges in my sweaty grasp.
Thanks for the thought provoking post, Chas
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I certainly don't think there's anything wrong with adjusting your playstyle to your group's gear level, you'd probably go mad if you didn't. And I grumble when HoS pops up, period.
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Just as an addendum – I totally agree with what you’re getting at – people love to brag that they haven’t read strats, or they were barely trying, or they’re in the wrong spec. It either allows them to save face if they fail – oh, it’s not my fault, I’m in my pvp spec – or if they do really well, they get even more recognition for pulling a top performance out of nowhere. lol I pulled 12k dps and I forgot I was pvp specced!!!11 I’m so amazing…
I’ve been guilded with people who do this kind of apathy-bragging and it drives me insane. I think I hate it even more than normal bragging. It’s right up there with people who brag about how hard the game used to be back in vanilla and how you haven’t really played if you didn’t kill cthun back in the day blah blah blahhhhhhhhhhhh.
/endrant
Yep it's really sad that society may see more value in a mediocre victory (or defeat where you underperform) than an total failure where you're been giving out the best you can do. For me that shows that people has very few self-esteem and are highly influenciable by what others can say. I don't give a fuck if I wipe on an easy boss if that wipe happens in a blaze of glory, with your char giving the best. Yep it's a shame to wipe on an easy boss you've done tons of times before, but people should see why the wipe and not justify the wipe because they were slacking. And if the slacking caused the wipe they truly deserve the shame.
Imho people are not slacking because they fear things can go bad, so they have this weal and pityful excuse that "I could have done better", but because they're plainly stupid and think they can nuke whatever crosses their way when they're wearing their T10 set. Wankers.
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I …. I … I tried to resist, but I cannot (see? there actually is a "try"): Yes… I measure my emblems of Triumph (and Frost) exactly in how little effort they cost. If I can get them quicker, I'll happily go that way. This means at the moment cheering happily whenever I get Oculus.
However … the best group I had yesterday was one that did only slighly overgear the content. I mean… the tank only had 38k health, the dps only dished out 2k dps… it was one of those groups that had time to chat and be merry instead of blasting through the place speedily and without a word. It was actually enjoyable to play with those random people.
I think there is no optimum point for efficiency and enjoyment on a sliding scale – those points are not mutually exclusive and it's entirely possible to optimize for both. However the effort required is a lot larger.
Oh lastly … you've got a really strange guild from what I read over the last few weeks. I still boggle when I think about recent posts. Did you not transfer here for everything to be better?
I think we're talkign at cross purposes when it comes to "effort" here. I also want my Triumph badges to come with as little hassle as possible but a big part of an efficient run is not making a big thing out of how little effort you're making.
A good example is Tam's Ony Run from a couple of posts back. If everybody had tried a little bit harder, they would have downed her in about twenty minutes. As it was they slacked, and didn't get *any* rewards at all. In that situation the only benefit to slacking was being able to say you were slacking, so you could sound macho while you wiped for the fourth time.
As for the guild, things have been a bit iffy recently, but things are way better than they were, there's just been a bit of a shift in guild culture recently that some of us are a bit antsy about.
And, how this fine people are going to suddenly put their shit together and fight in ICC without causing a string of wipes, huh?
People with this attitude have a name: DPS that pull for the tank.
OR tanks that pull entire rooms with letting the healer drink.
Or Healers that "heal" while AFK.
I'm getting REEAALY tired of the "DPS are the fault of all our problems" attitude. That somehow, Tanks & Healers are never the source of problems.
Attitudes like that are JUST as bad as the attitude Chas is talking about. After all, if it HAS to be the fault of DPS, it can't POSSIBLY be *your* fault. (assuming you are a healer or tank)
If that isn't your intended meaning, I sincerely applogize.
Ok, that name didn't explain much.
"People who use /cast sequence macros".
Much better.
You and Tam, lately, doing all of this…provoking my thoughts with your thought-provoking…things. "Apathy-bragging" as described by Keeva sounds pretty apt. I've seen it too. A hunter that I grouped with (playing my mage) was going head to head with me DPSing. And it was kind of fun, you know, in a "We all overgear this content let us see how we can smash it" kind of DPS competition way, except he starts doing the meter spam in party chat thing, and in the end, I just, JUST managed to do fractionally more damage than he had done – and he says "Oh NO I was in PvP gear that whole time!" Mmhm. Of course you were. And really, who cares? As far as I was concerned it was just a lark, it's Utgarde Pinnacle. Maybe he was in PvP gear, maybe he wasn't. Get over yourself.
Since I play a druid less than I used to, I'm not as confident, and generally stick to tree form. But if a tank is barely feeling any damage, I'll drop to caster and try to do a bit of DPS. It's a fine line, though. If my healing out of tree proves inadequate and someone dies or we wipe – I'd feel responsible for not using all of my tools, and the seconds I'd shave off the run from DPSing couldn't compare to the time to recover from a wipe. I guess that's a judgment call based on gear/confidence/ability/whatever, though.
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Also presumably this guy's PvP gear was also, y'know, ilvl 232…
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Also presumably this guy's PvP gear was also, y'know, ilvl 232…
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Sorry if im a daft foreigner, but "Revise", what is that?
I was planning to ask the same thing. I've always just translated it in my head as "study" from context, but I'm really not sure. In the U.S. "revising" is editing a piece of writing. I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean the same thing in this case.
As Rhii says, "revise" basically means "study, in order to prepare for an exam".
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I generally use my tree form unless I am going to DPS. If not, there is no reason not to….other than annoying other people. If I am tanking and there is a resto druid not in tree form, I ask them to get into it unless they are DPSing mobs while healing.
I had a druid in VH that was healing in elven form, and wouldn't go tree. I died twice because they were off distracted because "healing is boring". And yet they still wouldn't go tree form.
Letting me get down to and hover at 8k health through most of the instance because you want to spam hurricane isn't comforting either.
When I asked the druid to please go tree, after dying twice, all I got was "I don't need to. It's just VH"
"But I died twice. My repairs are expensive."
"Oh I had lag"
Had I been kept topped off then, probably wouldn't have died?
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It never ceases to amaze me that people will continue to insist that there is "no need" to do something despite the fact that **the group is wiping**.
It is at least consistent, if you view "keeping the tank alive" as optional then there are very few things which are mandatory.
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I had a druid in VH that was healing in elven form, and wouldn't go tree. I died twice because they were off distracted because "healing is boring". And yet they still wouldn't go tree form. Letting me get down to and hover at 8k health through most of the instance because you want to spam hurricane isn't comforting either. When I asked the druid to please go tree, after dying twice, all I got was "I don't need to. It's just VH" "But I died twice. My repairs are expensive." "Oh I had lag" Had I been kept topped off then, probably wouldn't have died? My recent post Meta Guild Group Leaves WaR
It's interesting because I completely agree with your argument – often we use the "but i wasn't trying" excuse when we fail to make ourselves look better and make ourselves feel better.
That said, I do believe that it's important to create your own challenges doing the Heroic Dungeon daily grind. In BC Pally tanks would tank in a wedding dress. Or not wear pants to drop their stats. I've heard of healers who do the current heroics wearing their Tier 5 or Tier 7 sets. The idea is a good one – to remove one of the "easy" things (over-geared) in order to force you to play "correctly" or force you to play how you would in difficult circumstances.
Personally I believe it's best to actually wait and see how your group copes until you reach the first boss *before* you create challenges. But I guess that has less shock/boast potential.
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I think the thing about "challenge" is that it's something you do quietly, to yourself. Healing in cow-form and then bragging about it in guild chat isn't about looking for a challenge, it's about looking for approbation.
Also, I'm actually finding Heroics so dull now that I genuinely don't know what I could do to make them more interesting. Perhaps I should get that peggle addon…
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I have offered to take off my pants to make healing me more interesting before…
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… your *in game* pants, right?
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I, like Keeva and your guildie, often go out of tree form in heroics. Your post made me think about the hows and whys, however, and I do agree that simply giving little to no effort because "you could but meh…it's not needed" is not something to be proud of, even though Blizzard seems to be rewarding that attitude at every turn.
You got me thinking about it enough that I had to write a post about non-tree heals, so thanks!
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I know that many of the Heroics are a cakewalk nowadays, and I've even posted about how it is giving me some bad habits:
I don't potion.
I don't scroll
I don't always even eat – These all cost gold/etc and are usually a waste
I can safely ignore Omen on all the regular trash and hardly feel it.
And I often don't even have time to get into rotation before everything is dead.
(I *do* pay attention to Bosses)
But it's hard to "stay in good form" when the band and dancefloor are running full tilt.
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I've never used scrolls in instances. Not sure why, I always assumed they didn't stack with other buffs.
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Now, if I happen to end up with a group of recently dinged 80s, then I *have t* to be more careful and the entire group mocves more slowly & carefully. I tend to enjoy them more.
Partly because there's time to be social, but also because I catually get to help people out and teach a little.
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I have often thought about dropping tree form and dpsing in caster form. I don't do it simply because it isn't that big of a deal to make the instance go that much faster. Do we really HAVE to complete the dungeon in 5 mins? As others have mentioned, I enjoy running with the lesser geared players. Most of the time they are still trying and are open to suggestions. I will complement the tank if he waits for me. I thank dps who get mobs off me. I wont, however, heal asshats or tanks that never stop running. If you are too imba to wait to see if your healer is done looting that mob and in the room with you, then you don't need a healer. If that makes me an asshole, then I am an asshole. I refuse to lessen my game enjoyment so someone else can have a 5 min run. The trade off is not worth it to me.
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I find it interesting that you're wiping in random heroics – if anything, I find that my guild runs are more likely to wipe than PUG groups in heroics. I ran several on sunday, the bulk being in random pugs – no wipes in any of them. I ran two with guild – one of the main tanks, no less, and we wiped several times.
I find the reason for this is that I find with the PUGs, the group tends to pay more attention, and while stupid things happen, it tends to sort itself out quickly. With a guild run, on the other hand, people TRY to do the stupid shit. I had a guild tank decide to try and pull THE ENTIRE GAUNTLET in HCoS – not just the first half, but the whole damn thing. I had a different tank decide that it would be entertaining to grab three elemental packs and the 2nd boss in HHoL at the same time. We nearly pulled out the second, but having your healer get bounced all over place does not lead to getting heals.
Another thing I find is that with the PUGs, if a DPS is being stupid and its him or the tank, the DPS goes splat. With guild, I try to do both, and sometimes fail as a result.
Perhaps I've just had bad PuGs, but my guildruns are generally fine (I tend to group with people who I trust to have a fun relaxing run, not people who want to gogogogogogogo). Perhaps it's a server culture issue, our battlegroup has a couple of servers that seem to be almost entirely populated by dickheads.
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I find it interesting that you're wiping in random heroics – if anything, I find that my guild runs are more likely to wipe than PUG groups in heroics. I ran several on sunday, the bulk being in random pugs – no wipes in any of them. I ran two with guild – one of the main tanks, no less, and we wiped several times. I find the reason for this is that I find with the PUGs, the group tends to pay more attention, and while stupid things happen, it tends to sort itself out quickly. With a guild run, on the other hand, people TRY to do the stupid shit. I had a guild tank decide to try and pull THE ENTIRE GAUNTLET in HCoS – not just the first half, but the whole damn thing. I had a different tank decide that it would be entertaining to grab three elemental packs and the 2nd boss in HHoL at the same time. We nearly pulled out the second, but having your healer get bounced all over place does not lead to getting heals. Another thing I find is that with the PUGs, if a DPS is being stupid and its him or the tank, the DPS goes splat. With guild, I try to do both, and sometimes fail as a result.
That reminds me of a heroic PoS run I had yesterday. We had a rogue who just couldn't stop asking for damage metres. I ignored his requests because I think that if you care that much about the metres you should get an addon yourself, but someone eventually gave in and posted the metres in party chat, showing the rogue's damage output barely above the warrior tank. I thought that would humble him and shut him up, but he kept asking. Someone initiated a vote-kick but it failed (I voted "no" too, because I wasn't quite ready to boot someone just for being annoying).
As we went on he then told us all that his damage wasn't that great because he was in pvp spec and gear, and eventually "and no poisons lol
". Next time he asked for metre spam, two of us had a little outburst at the same time and we ended up kicking him. I don't think anyone actually cave a hoot about how much damage he did, but the fact that he felt the need to keep bragging about how much he wasn't even trying (a rogue intentionally not using poisons, wtf) was bloody annoying.
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I'm getting more and more aggressive with vote-kicking. I'm really tempted to start a policy of starting a vote-kick against anybody who asks for a DPS meter, tells us to go fast, or comes from a server I don't like.
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For a while, I too wasn't healing in tree form. However, this was only in guild runs. It wasn't because I felt I was imba or overpowered, it was because to keep myself amused during Heroics I was working on my 400 Unarmed skill achievement…
… do you not get an unarmed bonus for whacking things with your branches?
Boo.
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No, you get whichever weapon you have equipped
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Well, to be fair… I did have a random healer in H COS who was a Death's Demise… didn't pop into tree form at all, and kept us topped off… even when my friend the tank and I decided to be careless and careen through the whole thing without pausing. It was really impressive. Unfortunately, the healers in our guild are kind of lacking… so every time we wipe on Rotface, we reminisce about 'that one really epic druid'.
Hmm. You know, I've had similar thoughts in the back of my head, but you were able to verbalize it much better than I was able to think it.
Wow, that was utter fail in verbalizing my thoughts.
Anyway, you make some staggeringly good points. The same theory applies to a lot of things. I often wonder if sometimes I don't even try to lose weight or something because then I can always pull the "well, I'm sure if I *tried* I would be successful… I'll just try later." Same with quitting smoking.
We just don't want to fail and be demoralized.
Also, please start a blog called TEACHIRL
People will always conserve and limit effort when they can. We very quickly learn to be lazy and fractionate our attention when there are no ramifications to doing so. Especially younger people, who get bored easily and can attend to a mind-boggling number of things at once.
How many of us are reading/responding to blogs while at work? And then gloating about how they play a video game with more attention than some smart-mouthed kid.
Maybe lolling about healing or DPSing in a non-ideal spec is bragging. But so is "I always bring my A-game no matter what the other losers are doing".
I used to do TBC heroics in Blue Overalls, my fishing hat, and a Farmer’s Broom. I kept all the invisible/subtle “real” gear on – rings, trinkets, boots, bracers etc.. but basically looked like a farmer. Brought my healing down to about 1400 and made it a challenge again. Plus I looked awesome.
Good times.
We used to do black tie runs while leveling. I kept my pants on, but took off everything that spoiled the line of my dress.
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We used to do black tie runs while leveling. I kept my pants on, but took off everything that spoiled the line of my dress.
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I used to do TBC heroics in Blue Overalls, my fishing hat, and a Farmer’s Broom. I kept all the invisible/subtle “real” gear on – rings, trinkets, boots, bracers etc.. but basically looked like a farmer. Brought my healing down to about 1400 and made it a challenge again. Plus I looked awesome.
Good times.
I used to do TBC heroics in Blue Overalls, my fishing hat, and a Farmer’s Broom. I kept all the invisible/subtle “real” gear on – rings, trinkets, boots, bracers etc.. but basically looked like a farmer. Brought my healing down to about 1400 and made it a challenge again. Plus I looked awesome.
Good times.
I used to do TBC heroics in Blue Overalls, my fishing hat, and a Farmer’s Broom. I kept all the invisible/subtle “real” gear on – rings, trinkets, boots, bracers etc.. but basically looked like a farmer. Brought my healing down to about 1400 and made it a challenge again. Plus I looked awesome.
Good times.
I used to do TBC heroics in Blue Overalls, my fishing hat, and a Farmer’s Broom. I kept all the invisible/subtle “real” gear on – rings, trinkets, boots, bracers etc.. but basically looked like a farmer. Brought my healing down to about 1400 and made it a challenge again. Plus I looked awesome.
Good times.
Long backlog to read, and I came back to here. Just curious, which particular branch of WMA do you dabble in?
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